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When Florida Sinks Beneath The Waves, DeSantis Will Move To Alabama

I don’t know that many people who live in Florida— and most of the people I do know there have either moved out of state or are in the process of moving. They all mention Ron DeSantis when I ask them why— or when they tell me why without me asking. But is it DeSantis himself? Or is it the people who have empowered him... the other Floridians? In an essay yesterday, You Call It “Florida,” I Call It “The Problem of Extinction Age Fascism”, Umair Haque proposed that “If you wanted an example of what negative, ruinous politics look like during the Age of Extinction, take a hard look at Florida.”

Of course what he’s worried about is where DeSantis is going. He explains that “DeSantis’s abuses of power are by now well established. A classic demagogue right down to, LOL, book bans. Criminalizing teachers, doctors, parents. Attacking kids. Building parallel institutions— reconstructing universities, constructing special police forces. The list goes on and on. But the problem here is bigger than that. Much bigger. DeSantis is 44 years old. He’s not going to win the next election. But he’s going to be around, a plague on America, for the next half a century. At some point, given enough backing from crackpot billionaires, a gullible media, and what we’re going to discuss next… he very well could win. Imagine that something happens to Trump, who’s getting well up there in years. Who’s the GOP front-runner then? But it’s not even time scales that are the issue. It’s that DeSantis’s formula is working. It’s a template of regressive politics, modern day fascism, and it’s working all too well. Extinction Age fascism? Look no further than… Florida.”

How long does Florida have? It’s anyone’s guess, given current rates of warming and sea level rise. Certainly, within the next decade or two, things will get…difficult. Very, very difficult. Already, insuring a home is problematic, expensive, if you can find someone to insure it at all.
And yet people are flocking to Florida. Why is that? Because of DeSantis’ formula. He’s cut taxes to the bone. Florida’s a handful of states with no state income tax.
Why does that work? Think about it. Time are tough. Incredibly tough. Real incomes are falling. Prices are skyrocketing. That, too, is an Extinction effect— climate change means we’re now running out of food, water, clean air, at a civilizational level, and so of course a relentless, never-ending inflationary wave is hitting us. That $5 or $10K you can save on state income tax? It’s a big deal, to most Americans. And so it’s not just people who are moving to Florida. It’s businesses, too. DeSantis knows he can attack Disney because, for example, plenty of hedge funds have moved in, as have health “insurers.”
DeSantis has made Florida economically attractive. At least in the short term. In an Age of Extinction, every penny you can save counts. Now, of course, it hardly takes a genius to see the problem that arises next: without a tax base, good luck having working infrastructure. And so Florida has some of the nation’s worst…from schools, to dams, to drinking water and so forth. But the long run doesn’t matter in this form of negative politics. It’s just about amassing power, now.
As people move to Florida, of course, there’s the threat of demographic change unseating a figure like a demagogue. But that threat’s often a hollow one, because— well, think about why those people moved there in the first place. For the short term gains. So if someone comes along and says, hey, I’m going to raise your taxes, so we can have decent infrastructure, and by the way, I’m going to undo all those book bans…how many votes are they really likely to garner?
This is how negative politics works. The economic short-termism goes hand in hand with the…fascism, more or less. I don’t know what else, really, to call book bans, criminalizing teachers, “don’t say gay,” and all the rest of it. It’s textbook neo-fascism, really, especially when you understand that the, uh, LOL, Nazis, began their attacks on civil society in much the same way.
So. Florida shows us a template of negative politics in the Age of Extinction. It goes like this. Hook people— who are growing poorer, fast, as inflation bites, and real incomes fall— with low, low taxes. Meanwhile, corrode institutions, norms, and values, scapegoat innocents, do the whole fascist shuffle down into the abyss. And trust that by and large, people will look the other way. After all, you’ve made a bargain with them: you’re going to give them those low taxes, and they’re going to let you…do your thing.
Meanwhile, while this dance of folly goes on, nobody’s planning for the inevitable, which is, LOL, in a place like Florida, already happening. Good luck getting insurance on that new home. But what does it matter? Remember, you’re just in it for the short term.
The effect of this kind of bargain on a society is inimical. Once you’ve hooked people, you amass power, and your ability to enact your regressive agenda only grows. The threat of demographic change isn’t much of a risk to you, the demagogue, because you know as long as you offer people the economics they want, they won’t challenge you much on social issues. So as people move in, and businesses do, you’re seen as more of a leader, you get more dark money, more influence, more airtime, and so on. You rise in stature and in power as a demagogue.
Does that make a little bit of sense? Let me try to put that in context. History’s not going to care very much about Florida, but those moments when it does remember it, it’s going to be to teach a lesson. Here was a place that was one of the most threatened by climate change. And instead of acting, in a positive way, a constructive one, it reacted. It chose negative politics. It was seduced by a demagogue, who used implosive economics to consolidate the political power to enact a regressive social agenda. It was consumed by hate, bigotry, rage, and supremacy, instead of doing anything— anything— about the threat that wasn’t just looming, but on its shores. And despite all that…people and businesses poured in.
All that’s a warning. To the rest of us. About just how desperate and cruel and crazy these times really are. You’d think that all of that — all of it, from climate change to not being able to insure against it to the outright bigotry and hate — would stop people from heading to Florida’s shores, but you’d be wrong. History’s going to chuckle at that. It’s like watching people’s head straight into the maw of the dragon, into the jaws of the lion, into the cyclone. But this is where we are.
Now. The problem is that this formula, as insane as it is, works. You can see it working. People and businesses are pouring into Florida. Despite the risks and costs of…well…everything. And as it works, it’s likely to spread. That’s the real Ron DeSantis Problem. Not even really the man himself, as weird and creepy and gross as he is, not to mention his, LOL, friends. It’s that he’s cracked the code on a negative politics in the Age of Extinction.
So what happens if it does spread, the DeSantis formula? You see, it’s easy enough to see it doing just that. Demagogues across America, or even the world, learning that they can lure people in with an artificially sweet economic deal, using those population flows to consolidate power, using that power to advance ultra regressive, neo-fascist agendas, to please the fanatics and lunatics, who have now been given badges, guns, titles, powers of immunity, and to “investigate,” to punish, to criminalize.
Let me go back to the “artificially sweet economic deal” part, because it’s the linchpin of this mess. Contrast DeSantis with, for example, Biden. Biden’s investing heavily in making America a leader again, in clean manufacturing, energy, semiconductors. To do that, he’s raised taxes on the wealthy and on business. And…nobody cares. Americans don’t appreciate it one bit. They like Biden about as much as they like a washed up celebrity— they’re by and large negative, verging on indifferent. Meanwhile DeSantis might earn scorn and ire— but in political terms, he’s doing pretty well. Not against Trump, but in the sense of having cracked a code, unearthed a formula, that consolidates his own power. His ability to abuse it.
That’s an artificially sweet economic deal, of course, because all Floridians are really doing— LOL, new ones and old ones— is deferring costs, which get more ruinous every day they’re put off. Insurance is hard to come by precisely because nobody much who’s thinking this through wants to pay the costs of what’s obviously on the way, from sea level rise to hurricanes to failing energy grids to heatwaves to ruined harvests.
Those costs will have to be paid, and at the point when they have to be, even in the extreme form of mega-weather, these population flows will probably reverse, fast. But by then, a figure like DeSantis will have leveraged his way to power at a national level as he’s doing now. The artificially sweet deal— it’s staggering costs will be paid by the average Joe and Jane, and its benefits reaped by demagogues.
Meanwhile, as all that happens, all those regressive policies will be solidified. Hey, I don’t like it, shrug, but wheee— I’m on my jet-ski!! I’m not paying any taxes!! Never mind reality’s going to come crashing down on this fantasy shortly. By then, the demagogues will be pushing this kind of hate and bigotry at a national level, because, like I said, the template works.
And that is the real problem here. Let me try to crystallize it as clearly as I can. We are now in the Age of Extinction. And something perverse is happening. Instead of the center rising, the far right is ascendant, even making inroads into Canada, Sweden, Finland, Italy, bastions of social democracy (well, maybe not anymore.) Why is that? DeSantis is the one who’s figured out the template and formula best and first. People are getting poorer. Hook them with an artificially sweet economic deal. They’ll look the other way while you do your dirty work. They might fret here and there, but nobody will seriously challenge you, because, well, that deal is just too sweet. Maybe a lot of those suckers will even get radicalized along the way, and end up hating all those “groomers” and “pedophiles.” Either way, you’re free to implode democracy. The danger is that the rest of these fanatics figure all this out, and start to copy DeSantis. Then we have a global negative politics in an Age of Extinction, and that is a very big deal indeed. So far, we’re not quite there— we just have angry people putting fairly incompetent demagogues into power. But DeSantis is way, way ahead of the rest of them— which is why he’s got all these new friends, like billionaires buying platforms for him to announce Presidential runs.
This is the trap politics in an Age of Extinction falls into. Is falling into. As people get poorer, they’re lured in with fantasies that nobody much will have to pay for anything, and things can go on as they were. Erasing your own tax base is one way to deal with the problem of permanently falling living standards thanks to climate change— but it’s not a very good one, because, LOL, it won’t work for very long. But it’ll work for long enough. Long enough for the demagogue. The lunatics and fanatics backing him. The bigots and supremacists who want to implode democracy. As people get poorer, they’re seduced like this— and ultimately, they turn on one another. In that process of implosion, demagogues surf the chaos, and peace, prosperity, nonviolence, equality, truth, liberty— they all become distant memories.
The problem, in other words, isn’t just DeSantis. It’s the code he’s cracked, for a negative politics in an Age of Extinction. In any sane world? Florida’d be one of the world’s heaviest investors in figuring out how to develop, at light speed, everything from clean energy to green agriculture. But in this world? It’s one of the globe’s foremost laboratories for 21st century authoritarianism, for Extinction Age fascism, for demagoguery, lunacy, extremism, and folly. Think about that for a second, because history will, now and then, and chuckle. Those guys were facing all that…and they did what?

What we learned in school— and via mass media— was that the historical fascism of the 1930s and ’40s was an ideology aiming to establish authoritarian governments with centralized power while suppressing individual freedoms and promoting nationalism. In contrast, the Western democracies supposedly championed the ideals of democracy, individual rights, and the rule of law. The defeat of fascism was a result of a combination of military strategies, economic resources and ideological determination. I wonder about the “ideological determination” part of this formula. We were taught that there was a great ideological clash between democracy and fascism that was a fundamental aspect of the conflict and that the determination of the Allied powers (inconveiently for this argument, including the USSR) to preserve democratic values and protect individual freedoms played a significant role in the ultimate victory over fascism.

Our side, we are told, had moral clarity. Basically, the leadership of the U.S., Britain, Canada, Australia, New Zealand and some resistance movements viewed fascism as a grave threat to core principles— individual freedom, human rights, and democratic governance. They were driven by a moral imperative to protect these values and ensure that the world did not succumb to authoritarianism. By emphasizing their commitment to democratic principles and actively working to promote and protect them, the democratic nations sought to delegitimize fascism as an ideology. They aimed to demonstrate the inherent superiority of democratic values and the positive outcomes that they could bring to societies. This ideological determination played a significant role during World War II, helping sustain the morale and unity of the Allied forces and inspiring resistance against fascist regimes. So… our high school teachers told us that in this sense, the defeat of fascism was not merely a military victory but also an ideological triumph for democracy. The determination to protect and propagate democratic values helped undermine the appeal and long-term viability of fascism as an ideology. And now we have half the country embracing Trump and DeSantis and a quasi fascist, nationalist ideology that they call "freedom." What happened? Let me propose 4 neat responses to that that all work together:

  1. Economic and social anxieties: Economic inequality, job insecurity, and social divisions create fertile ground for populist movements that exploit people's fears and frustrations. These movements scapegoat marginalized groups, fueling divisions and promising simple solutions to complex problems.

  2. Political disillusionment: Failures and shortcomings of established political parties and institutions have eroded trust and confidence in the democratic process. When people become disillusioned with traditional politics, they are more inclined to support populist leaders who promise to disrupt the status quo and address their grievances.

  3. Fear and cultural identity: Appeals to nationalistic or ethnocentric sentiments, fueled by concerns about immigration and cultural change, resonate with segments of the population. Populist “Know Nothing” movements that emphasize "us vs. them" narratives and promise to protect national identity or cultural heritage gain support.

  4. Media landscape and information bubbles: The advent of social media and the fragmentation of traditional media sources are contributing to the creation of self-referring QAnon-like echo chambers and filter bubbles. These environments reinforce existing beliefs, spread misinformation, and amplify divisive narratives, leading to the polarization of public discourse and the rise of fringe ideologies.

Preparing the reject McCarthy's deal with Biden, the Freedom Caucus fascists released this graphic yesterday:



Guestcrapper- How sad that you have nothing to do this holiday weekend but blather and blather just to "hear" yourself blather. I guess you need this site to talk to because you bored all the local call girls so much they won't even take your money for just listening anymore.

May 29, 2023
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your relief valve is stuck open. might want to get it checked.

also... you don't seem busy this weekend. did your local boys club close for the holiday?


May 28, 2023

I might add that the difference between our 1933 and our present is that in 1932, the incumbent was a hapless republican (so we toggled to a Democrat) AND we just got lucky that the rich Democrat we elected was FDR, who actually had a heart... but maybe more importantly was married to Eleanor, far and away the finest First Lady we've ever had the unearned good fortune to have.

AND the Democrats became the Democrats of fable and spent decades *DOING* stuff (the New Deal) for people (and infrastructure -- the commons) and defending those having the least from predation by those having the most.

Contrast 1933 with today. we got biden and jill and a party of haples…


May 28, 2023

A very VERY fine analysis here, that should be filed under "D" for 'DUH'. It's all been done before. It's a very old recipe. It's a rebaking of the german nazi cake from 1933.

some key snips:

"People and businesses are pouring into Florida. Despite the risks and costs of…well…everything. And as it works, it’s likely to spread. That’s the real Ron DeSantis Problem. ... It’s that he’s cracked the code on a negative politics in the Age of Extinction."

Seems to me this started in TX when those imbeciles elected W governor and he went about cutting taxes and services to establish his fascist bona fides as he planned to run for prez. it also worked. Since then, …

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